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	<title>Comments on: Plimer debunked!</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.empiricist.com/articles/plimer-debunked/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 02:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To reiterate, I was not addressing the &quot;main thrust&quot;, I was focusing on expressed opinions of Plimer&#039;s book, Heaven and Earth. I understand that this was not the main thrust of either post.  

Now, since you are saying that you were offering no opinion on Plimer&#039;s book (despite the pejorative &quot;denialist&quot; adjective), and that your link was intended to highlight only Professor Clark&#039;s comments on the Australian and not his comments on &quot;Heaven and Earth&quot; in the same post, then I take you at your word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To reiterate, I was not addressing the &#8220;main thrust&#8221;, I was focusing on expressed opinions of Plimer&#8217;s book, Heaven and Earth. I understand that this was not the main thrust of either post.  </p>
<p>Now, since you are saying that you were offering no opinion on Plimer&#8217;s book (despite the pejorative &#8220;denialist&#8221; adjective), and that your link was intended to highlight only Professor Clark&#8217;s comments on the Australian and not his comments on &#8220;Heaven and Earth&#8221; in the same post, then I take you at your word.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Lambert</title>
		<link>http://www.empiricist.com/articles/plimer-debunked/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;this rubbish&quot; refers to the articles in the Australian.  I did not say or imply that he had debunked Plimer&#039;s book.  You misrepresented me.

Despite your denial, Professor Clarke did debunk the articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;this rubbish&#8221; refers to the articles in the Australian.  I did not say or imply that he had debunked Plimer&#8217;s book.  You misrepresented me.</p>
<p>Despite your denial, Professor Clarke did debunk the articles.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.empiricist.com/articles/plimer-debunked/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I&#039;m aware that the focus was the anti-climate-science bias at the Australian, but you explicitly included discussion of Plimer&#039;s book as part of &quot;this rubbish&quot;, as did the linked article.

I wasn&#039;t in the mood for analysing the entirety of someone else&#039;s rather long post word by word, but since you seem to be implying that I&#039;m distorting through selective use of paragraphs, I&#039;ll make the following points.

1) The implication was that Plimer&#039;s book was  debunked. It wasn&#039;t.

2) Clark&#039;s response was to dismiss it out of hand (as quoted), based on reviews by non-scientist thid parties. Your response was to defer to Clark.

3) while some of the other Australian articles are criticised with a more solid basis, the overall approach is one of  a mixture of factual discussion and bald assertion. That&#039;s not &quot;debunking.&quot;
 
I hope that clarifies things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I&#8217;m aware that the focus was the anti-climate-science bias at the Australian, but you explicitly included discussion of Plimer&#8217;s book as part of &#8220;this rubbish&#8221;, as did the linked article.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t in the mood for analysing the entirety of someone else&#8217;s rather long post word by word, but since you seem to be implying that I&#8217;m distorting through selective use of paragraphs, I&#8217;ll make the following points.</p>
<p>1) The implication was that Plimer&#8217;s book was  debunked. It wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>2) Clark&#8217;s response was to dismiss it out of hand (as quoted), based on reviews by non-scientist thid parties. Your response was to defer to Clark.</p>
<p>3) while some of the other Australian articles are criticised with a more solid basis, the overall approach is one of  a mixture of factual discussion and bald assertion. That&#8217;s not &#8220;debunking.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope that clarifies things.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Lambert</title>
		<link>http://www.empiricist.com/articles/plimer-debunked/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, was my post too long for you?

Try reading it again and see if you can tell us what &quot;this rubbish&quot; refers to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, was my post too long for you?</p>
<p>Try reading it again and see if you can tell us what &#8220;this rubbish&#8221; refers to.</p>
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		<title>By: Retardo</title>
		<link>http://www.empiricist.com/articles/plimer-debunked/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Retardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite word in the &quot;debunking&quot; is &quot;apparently&quot;. 

As in, &quot;I didn&#039;t read the book, and it&#039;s wrong&quot;. 

Clown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite word in the &#8220;debunking&#8221; is &#8220;apparently&#8221;. </p>
<p>As in, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t read the book, and it&#8217;s wrong&#8221;. </p>
<p>Clown.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.empiricist.com/articles/plimer-debunked/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification.</p>
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